UK NEWS: FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION SAY LUIS SUAREZ RACE CASE EVIDENCE WAS ‘UNRELIABLE’ AND ‘INCONSISTENT’ IN RELEASED REPORT

Luis Suarez and Patrick Evra

Several weeks ago the FA (Football Association) announced that footballer Luis Suárez would be banned for eight matches and fined £40,000 for racially abusing Manchester United star Patrick Evra during a match.

Today the Football Association released the independent regulatory commission’s 115-page document which details  the case, the conversation the two players had during the match at Anfield on October 15, and explains their decision to fine/suspend Suárez .

Read excerpts from the report below.

The FA’s case, in short, was as follows. In the goalmouth, Mr Evra and Mr Suarez spoke to each other in Spanish. Mr Evra asked Mr Suarez why he had kicked him, referring to the foul five minutes previously. Mr Suarez replied “Porque tu eres negro”, meaning “Because you are black”. Mr Evra then said to Mr Suarez “say it to me again, I’m going to punch you”. Mr Suarez replied “No hablo con los negros”, meaning “I don’t speak to blacks”. Mr Evra continued by saying that he now thought he was going to punch Mr Suarez. Mr Suarez replied “Dale, negro, negro, negro”, which meant “okay, blackie, blackie, blackie”.  As Mr Suarez said this, he reached out to touch Mr Evra’s arm, gesturing at his skin. Mr Kuyt then intervened. When the referee blew his whistle and called the players over to him shortly after the exchanges in the goalmouth, Mr Evra said to the referee “ref, ref, he just called me a f**king black”.

Mr Suarez denied the Charge. His case, in short, was as follows. He agreed with Mr Evra that they spoke to each other in Spanish in the goalmouth. When Mr Evra asked why he had kicked him, Mr Suarez replied that it was a normal foul and shrugged his shoulders. Mr Evra then said that he was going to kick Mr Suarez, to which Mr Suarez told him to shut up. As Mr Kuyt was approaching, Mr Suarez touched Mr Evra’s left arm in a pinching style movement. According to Mr Suarez, at no point in the goalmouth did he use the word “negro”. When the referee blew his whistle to stop play, Mr Evra spoke to Mr Suarez and said (in English) “Don’t touch me, South American”. Mr Suarez replied “Por que, negro?”. He says that he used the word “negro” in a way with which he was familiar from his upbringing in Uruguay. In this sense, Mr Suarez claimed, it is used as a noun and as a friendly form of address to people seen as black or brown-skinned (or even just blackhaired). Thus, it meant “Why, black?” Mr Suarez maintained that when he said “Por que, negro?” to Mr Evra, it was intended in a conciliatory and friendly way.

On 11 November, the FA instructed two experts, Dr Scorer and Professor Wade. The 
experts were instructed to prepare a written report on the linguistic and cultural 
interpretations of the words “negro” and “negros” in Rioplatense Spanish. The instructions went into further detail as to the issues which the experts were asked to cover. The FA provided the experts with relevant materials, including 12 video clips of the match, the witness statement of Mr Evra and the transcript of the interview with Mr Suarez. The experts provided a written report to the FA on 15 November

Click HERE to read the full report. It is long but a very interesting read.

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  1. this is BS …i didn’t read the entire report. But from what is here…this is bull… You don’t call a Black man Negro in that kind of situation period!!! He knew what he was doing and he knew he would get away with it. I know Chico Rei will disagree with me, he lives in that country now and I’m willing to bet being accepted is big deal for him. No offense …but we tend to let things slide when we are seeking acceptance. Just my opinion. And reading what the guy said he don’t speak to black people. When you say that in Spanish it is even worst…depending how you say it.

  2. This is one big joke the whole thing is unreal to me, if it was cut and dried what Suarez had actually said then fair enough, bit the report is so inconsistent and the FA seem to have banned Suarez because Evra to them was a more credible witness and he was probably right, they actually used the word probably it is unreal.

    A quick example of how ‘credible’ Evra is, is this, item 271 if the report states that Evra told the referee after the game that Suarez used a certain word, when in fact he used the N word, but Evra didn’t say this had the time because he hates even saying that word, a quick you tube search and the FA would have found this http://t.co/MvlP6mbP as you can see he really hates using the N word.

    I could go on but I’d be here for ages, I know not everyone will agree and take Evra’s quotes of what Suarez said as fact and bang him to rights but I honestly believe this whole thing is a stitch up even down to the timing of the release of the report, call me a cynic but it just happens to be released immediately after Man Utd suffer an embarrassing loss thus taking the headlines away from that.

    So let’s see what happens with John Terry, I don’t need an 115 Page document to tell me what he said, we all saw it, but the FA will turn a blind eye, they can’t afford to ban him and then still have him represent us as England captain.

  3. I like you Moreno and I normally agree with what you but what you say about me is complete rubbish, especially when you’re posting with the name Moreno, it’s almost comical. I don’t give a fuck about being accepted in Spain, what I said was it’s a term used when people talk to each other the same way you was called Moreno and it’s normally used by blacks and black hispanics for instances I go to a barbers called los negros which is a black barbershop, black girls will say things like I’m chilling with my negro and they will say I’m chilling with my negra. I’ve heard one white person say negra here and that’s when a white woman called a little black girl negra linda which means pretty black girl the girl was beaming it was good to hear especially as little black girls in the UK and US normally get called ugly, in countries that are more foward thinking when it comes to race, and me I’m in Spain breaking down racial barriers, so no I don’t care about being accepted, black people mainly in the US calling each other N**** is much much worse.

    Now, when it was first posted all we knew was Suarez said porque negro why black man which isn’t racist, now we see the full report and see he said porque eres negro because you are a black man which is complety different and from the rest of the report he is a racist, and he deserves the ban like i said before in a previous post I have always hated Suarez so that doesn’t surprise me.

  4. @Chic- Rei….oooooooh brother….didn’t mean to offend as i stated. And yes maybe i could have said it differently but i wrote what i was thinking. Yes my thinking may have been wrong and for that i apologize. I was making the statement based on what i know of some who go to another country. Some that i know tell me things that happen and when i question them about it, it seems they let things slide because they care more about being accepted. Now in your case you said, i am wrong and i accept that. And yes lol i do post as Moreno because that was my legal last name. As you know that latinos hi-fen their last names. So that was how my name was until i dropped it…as did most of my family. For personal reasons. But understand this i am Black and i look Black and that is just me. But i must say i laughed when i read what you said about it. I am and always will be very passionate about Black people. And if i think something is wrong in my eyes i will have something to say about it. But as i said and i will say it again…i didn’t mean to offend!! I never want to intentionally offend anyone on this site that is not how i roll. So since i did i’m sorry about that. Now i do still think this is a bunch of BS, but i am not surprised. Andi don’t like when someone address me as negro. And i really don’t accept when anyone here in the U.S addresses anyone as the N Word. Yes some do that here…but the people i’m around don’t get down like that. And i do agree with Black Latinos calling each other moreno or negro. But i only accept that by other Black who understands what it is to be Black anywhere. So called whites in spain or here in the U.S can never call me negro,moreno….or i will take issue with that. Because i have a name and if you don’t know it you should just call me sir… And i do get that everyone is not racist in Spain but their history is rooted in racism. You and i are cool and will always be…but understand i see things one way at times and you will see thing your way. And it’s cool because it’s all about the discussion….

  5. Its 2012, we have technology that connects us globally and cheap travel.
    Unless you live under a rock, it is hard to believe that ppl think that the terms used were not done in any other way but a rscist one.
    I don’t get how Chico can suggest that being classified by ones skin colour can ever come from a truly positive place. Being called “pretty” for me would suffice as an example, why the need for racial definement? To me, it tells me that a person cannot see be beyond racial classification and is therefore conditioned by it which certainly would not be a great place for a black person universally, period.

  6. moreno :@Chic- Rei….oooooooh brother….didn’t mean to offend as i stated. And yes maybe i could have said it differently but i wrote what i was thinking. Yes my thinking may have been wrong and for that i apologize. I was making the statement based on what i know of some who go to another country. Some that i know tell me things that happen and when i question them about it, it seems they let things slide because they care more about being accepted. Now in your case you said, i am wrong and i accept that. And yes lol i do post as Moreno because that was my legal last name. As you know that latinos hi-fen their last names. So that was how my name was until i dropped it…as did most of my family. For personal reasons. But understand this i am Black and i look Black and that is just me. But i must say i laughed when i read what you said about it. I am and always will be very passionate about Black people. And if i think something is wrong in my eyes i will have something to say about it. But as i said and i will say it again…i didn’t mean to offend!! I never want to intentionally offend anyone on this site that is not how i roll. So since i did i’m sorry about that. Now i do still think this is a bunch of BS, but i am not surprised. Andi don’t like when someone address me as negro. And i really don’t accept when anyone here in the U.S addresses anyone as the N Word. Yes some do that here…but the people i’m around don’t get down like that. And i do agree with Black Latinos calling each other moreno or negro. But i only accept that by other Black who understands what it is to be Black anywhere. So called whites in spain or here in the U.S can never call me negro,moreno….or i will take issue with that. Because i have a name and if you don’t know it you should just call me sir… And i do get that everyone is not racist in Spain but their history is rooted in racism. You and i are cool and will always be…but understand i see things one way at times and you will see thing your way. And it’s cool because it’s all about the discussion….

    It’s cool man, we’re cool. I just took offense when you said I was trying to get accepted it when that really isn’t me but thanks for explaining it. Spain is a very backwards and racist country but alot of it is out of ignorance they really don’t know no better. I’m writing an article about it now.

  7. Chico-Rei :

    your way. And it’s cool because it’s all about the discussion….

    It’s cool man, we’re cool. I just took offense when you said I was trying to get accepted it when that really isn’t me but thanks for explaining it. Spain is a very backwards and racist country but alot of it is out of ignorance they really don’t know no better. I’m writing an article about it now.

    Chico you finally admitted that spain was stuck in the dark ages as far as racism goes.Those people aren’t ignorant . They are just plain basic racists.

    The broader point I’d like to make is that mediterranean nations find it difficult to move past the colonial mentality. This includes France . I suppose I know better then I am one. There are enough attitudes that will remind people on the brand of overt racism of the 1950s .The biggest difference is spain and portugal are poor european villages , people will have what I call ” A less educated racism”.

  8. lechatnoir :

    Chico-Rei :

    your way. And it’s cool because it’s all about the discussion….

    It’s cool man, we’re cool. I just took offense when you said I was trying to get accepted it when that really isn’t me but thanks for explaining it. Spain is a very backwards and racist country but alot of it is out of ignorance they really don’t know no better. I’m writing an article about it now.

    Chico you finally admitted that spain was stuck in the dark ages as far as racism goes.Those people aren’t ignorant . They are just plain basic racists.
    The broader point I’d like to make is that mediterranean nations find it difficult to move past the colonial mentality. This includes France . I suppose I know better then I am one. There are enough attitudes that will remind people on the brand of overt racism of the 1950s .The biggest difference is spain and portugal are poor european villages , people will have what I call ” A less educated racism”.

    I said from the begining Spain stuck in the dark ages when it comes to race, blacks and hispanics get the brunt of it but alot of it is out of ignorance from the orignal people and plain racism from the people higher up

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