Earlier this year rapper English Frank performed at the event Hip Hop Isn’t Dead concert in Brixton which also featured Black the Ripper, Akala, and Ty.
Things went down hill for Frank when he called a security guard “dumb” and then went on to say “I don’t want to sound racist but he is African”.
But according to Frank he can get away with saying this because:
“I’m from Brixton, I’m more African than him”.
Now which fool fool black man in his Brixtonian crew gave him that impression? Come on own up!
Oh dear.. oh dear…
Let it all out Frank. Tell us all how you REALLY FEEL!!!
Frank’s black friends from his hometown of Brixton and beyond must have been shocked and distressed after this outburst but that’s their “bredrin still” so all has probably been forgiven and forgotten by now.
Since the video caught the attention of the masses (yesterday) many have vented their anger towards English Frank including fellow artist Skepta (click here to read his tweets). But he has since calmed down and changed his tune after Frank tweeted (a mere two hours ago) a public apology (hilarious).
And then you have rapper Mic Righteous who tweeted:
So basically this man is telling us black folks that we have no right to feel offended or have a right to voice an opinion on this matter. I will be sure to remember that next time Righteous. Massa has spoken!
Really who does Righteous think he is? I am sick and tired of people thinking that they can tell us how we should feel when situations like this occur. What gives them that right???
Anyway CLICK HERE to watch Frank’s apology on the night that GRM Daily has uploaded with a QUICKNESS in a bid to save the rapper. (Hahahahahaha).
That apology was funny for a number of reasons. Those who are clued up will know what I mean 😀
All I can do is shake my head and laugh at this mess.
Your thoughts please….
He was comfortable way too comfortable…but who has he heard speaking like that around him it doesn’t take a genius to work out. The guy who jumped up and defended him should run off a cliff flippin Uncle Tom
All I can do is shake my head. I’m glad about the the crowds reaction,This is what happens when black people get too comfortable around white people, it’s funny Africans used to be easy targets back in the day. I think this fool just realised, it’s a new day. Punk.
It sure is a sorry situation. What is even more messed up is that a white man say’s something stupid/Racist on stage and it results in a lot of black people going at each others neck on social media about who allowed it, who said what after, everyone assuming certain artist let it slid without asking them what happened etc….
@Cameron
Yes loads of bickering on Twitter over this between black folk while Frank is probably sitting somewhere laughing and being consoled by his Brixtonian crew. I came across a tweet earlier from some black guy who I think is a friend blaming the West Indian community for English Frank’s racism towards Africans and in my opinion basically attempts to take the heat off Frank. Whilst I accept that in the past and sadly even today some West Indians have a tendency to talk absolute foolishness and try to distance themselves from Africa/their history I refuse to turn idiot and fall in to the trap of believing that ‘poor innocent Frank is no racist. He was just been led astray by his black friends and its all our fault’.
Read this brilliant article about the situation. This guy basically says it all. http://t.co/I5NrVvilTo
thank you cameron…!!
So he gets away with all kinds of shit when he’s “alone in a room” with his Black friends. Shame on them. Also, sounds like Akala’s girlfriend was VEX lol!
Just another example of how things have changed in this place. Yes people had words with him afterwards and he was told to apologise to the security guard etc but back in the day there would have been no discussion, no reasoning, Frank would have been bottled off that stage and left to crawl out of that venue on his knees.
His apology is just embarrassing and and also highlights the mindset of the friends around him. You are right Pheva they should be ashamed of themselves.
Don’t get me wrong, people do have a right to know what happened beyond the video we saw and it’s something people needed to get angry about, but there was some reactions that seemed like some people were overjoyed that this happened and could not wait to test Akala and Ty in a “lets see what these guys got to say about this” or “if they did not buss he’s head then i don’t want to hear a word from them again” kind of vibe. Sorry if people don’t agree but that is how i felt about some responses today
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And as for Mr Frank English, well if he is sitting some where whipping his forehead thinking he got away lightly he needs to think again, he will never be able to shake the racist tag off and he can only blame himself for that.
Couldn’t agree more Cameron, Skepta and Frisco had this attitude, Frisco didn’t even @ English frank to tell him what he thought! This episode makes you know that the whole music scene in the UK has to change. The same guys saying “if it was me i would have…’ will be back performing on the the same stage as EDL Frank in no time.
Once a man violates like that he cannot be allowed to continue making money from the people he detests. If he can still call himself a rapper after today whose fault is that?
Sorry last thing…i swear..
Janice, thanks for the link, it was a very good article which gave me food for thought. I hope that articles like this can lead to more discussion among people.
Soon there will be the new generation who will be brought up in the British banter culture where jokes about race and black stereotypes will be seen as the same as jokes about the Irish, French and Gypsies. What was a private banter will be made public with no reaction. A lot of these guys who where born in and around 1992 do not know what it was like growing up in the early 80’s when Bernard Manning’s supporters tried to defend his blatant racist jokes and how he spread stereotypes of black people to all parts of England. Also when white kids used to repeat Jim Davidson Jokes and Accents to all the black kids in the playground every frigging minute. If these guys knew then maybe they would not be so quick to defend him by saying it’s West Indian people’s fault. I wont deny that there was a time when i and others was encouraged to make jokes about Africans but that is another conversation all together.
English Frank fucked up big time by saying that. What’s even more worrying is that we’ve come to the point where a White man can stand up on stage in Brixton, in a room full of Blacks and feel comfortable saying such a thing. English Frank is incredibly stupid, but calling him a racist is just pushing it.
@Chris Lloyd
“Calling him racist is pushing it”
Why?
@Cameron
We are living in a time where a generation of black people are happy to sit down and let nonsense like this slide, who run to save and defend the English Frank’s of the world. You also have idiot young black men who are happy to encourage others to sit down and disrespect black women publicly on social media forums (“banter”). But that’s another story.
I have no time for such antics. At some point they will all learn the hard way.
Because there’s evidence to prove otherwise. English Frank is someone who’s been born and bred around Blacks, grown up around Blacks, moves with Blacks, ect. I think the problem is many non-blacks hear their Blacks friends say things amongst each other, then get a little too comfortable repeating what they see as just banter. At the same time, I just wouldn’t define someone as a racist just off one stupid remark, when his actions demonstrates that he isn’t. Let’s not all behave as if we’ve never in our lives send things in the past that could be considered as racist. English Franks problem is that he had a microphone in his hand. Not excusing what he said, I just don’t think he’s a racist.
We as Black do have to hold some responsibility for all. We need to be watchful of what we say in front of our White counterparts. I’ve met a few White boys who feel no way saying nigga around and in front of Blacks because they hear their Blacks friends using the word.
Watch this video and tell me who’s more to blame. The White guy rapper saying the N word or the Blacks behind him allowing it to go on.
I keep hearing this same old argument “Oh Frank grew up around black people, he can’t be racist etc etc etc”. I refuse to accept it. But if this generation is happy to run with that clap trap then good luck to you all.
I know white women with black husbands and mixed raced children who are racist, that ‘he has black friends’ line is a load of crap. Similarly, black people who have no choice but to grow up around, work with etc white people can still be racist. When you are not a racist you do not say racist things, its that simple. It doesn’t just slip out and we don’t all do it. Stop making excuses for bad behaviour and see it for what it is.
I have friends and family from all backgrounds, I have never made a racist remark or comment in anger or as a joke. It shows a distinct lack of respect, I am not friends with people i don’t respect. How does that make any sense??
Chris Lloyd’s comments are the main problem and reason why we have had to endure this type of ‘banter’ racism for so long. No one is held accountable.
This generation seems to think its ok, and its still my problem because I have children growing up with these people who are being made to feel like they are the ones in the wrong when they do not accept this type of banter from their peers. You guys need to wake up!
It appears that the term Racist seems to mean different things to different people. Lately it seems that some people think the only view of a Racist is a 6ft beer bellied skin head White man with nazi shirt who hates any race that his not his. I may have to refresh my definition of the term racist but as i do not know English Frank personally i can only take from what he said as a view about African people being dumb as a term of a Racist and then to claim that he is more African because he was from Brixton?? stupidity and way ignorant. yes i understand he was drunk/tipsy but it seems it is a view he had tucked away in the back of his head. also i could also call him bigoted for what he had said as well.
We live in a time where a white person will call a asian man ‘paki’ and all their black mates will say he is not racist. You can have a black person who will call a Asian man ‘paki’ and he will claim he cannot be racist because he is black. you can have a white girl call another white girl nigger but they and all their friends will claim their version of nigger is not the racist version. I live in a area where a young British white kid and a Eastern European kid can tell a black kid that they are more black then him because they can rap better and have better street clothes than him, and the white kids mates will be in agreement with that statement.
Each way we look at this situation is only going to get worse with the future generations.
THIS!!!
Chris Lloyd, what is this “action” you keep speaking off. Please dont say “the fact he has black friends”
@melissa
I think you will find English Frank has been held to account for what he has said and made to realise he was wrong. I just don’t believe he’s a racist.
@chrisLldy what makes a racist? If he said what he said and was a member if the EDL, would he be racist then? Blaming alcohol on your actions is a cop out! Ive never been drunk and suddenly turned into a racist. If you identify with that, then maybe you need to analyse what it is that about alcohol that can make your deep rooted feelings about things just come to the surface
I love this article, everything he says is on point.
Held to account by who?
If he is still able to make money rapping in the UK then he hasn’t been held accountable at all.
He should have said that he is from seven sisters, therefore he is more african than him. Not from brixton. FAIL!!!
Like Black people aren’t racist?
Racist?! Isn’t what he said more xenophobic. The issue is a cultural thing, not race.
“But what if the bouncer had been a black American as opposed to African? I reckon it would have been a very different story. I’ve witnessed first hand in a shop in Brixton, a black American guy being verbally shredded on anti-American grounds by an Iraqi shop owner, with a few black English guys pissing themselves laughing. I actually, to my shame, had to hold back laughter too, as the Iraqi guy was very funny. But it was still bigotry aimed at a guy because of where he was from and not who he was, that said, race had nothing to do with it.”
That article which is being posted is laced with racism and bigotry by the way
The part where you said that soon there will be a: “…new generation who will be brought up in the British banter culture where jokes about race and black stereotypes will be seen as the same as jokes about the Irish, French and Gypsies…” – cannot be further from the truth. There will never be such as day because the Irish, French and Gypsies were never enslaved , had their heritages taken away along with their native languages and torn away from their families. I know it’s just “wishful-thinking” but you can ever put racism against Blacks in the same boats as other races which is why descendants of the people who caused such atrosities should never feel as-if they can use that N-word or treat Blacks any kind of way or think that just because ‘your Black friends allow it’ that it’s ok amongst the rest of other Blacks. Sure, blacks calling other blacks that work is no different than the “pot calling the kettle ‘black’ – meaning that it’s harmless”. But when you have another race (especially a White person!) saying it to a Black – can you understand what I’m saying? – Just doesn’t work the way we would like it to and it’s not the fault of the Black culture for things being that way. In the future, other races will just have to understand the history and how it cannot be looked upon lightly, because even though this generation of Black has never experienced slavery…we are forced to LIVE WITH THE REPERCUSSIONS of it – like in the case of @EnglishFrank and things that are said without respect to the history of the Black community. I hope this clears up some issues because if after 200 years of ‘so-called’ equality but a White can still refer to a Black as “less than human”, we will never be able to FIX what history has broken ;-).
This is soo true. Here’s the difference: “A White Rapper can embrace the rap culture and ‘get out of it’ and live his life outside of the barriers of that culture and not be held in accountability of their actions (meaning they can go BACK to being White).” But a Black person will always be in their same nature, there is no “pretending”. Basically @EnglishFrank can call an african ‘dumb’, apologize and live to do it again over and over. The more he is allowed to do this, the more he will think that africans must be dumb. We cannot allow him to ‘take off his black mask’ – so to speak. We as Blacks don’t have a mask to take off – it’s our everyday life of being looked upon in the manners that people like @EnglishFrank probably REALLY THINK about africans on the inside – only to be exposed sometimes when he is drunk and forgets that his ‘black mask’ is still on ;-)>
The part where you said that soon there will be a: “…new generation who will be brought up in the British banter culture where jokes about race and black stereotypes will be seen as the same as jokes about the Irish, French and Gypsies…” – cannot be further from the truth. There will never be such as day because the Irish, French and Gypsies were never enslaved , had their heritages taken away along with their native languages and torn away from their families. I know it’s just “wishful-thinking” but you can ever put racism against Blacks in the same boats as other races
CritiKil, you clearly have a very limited knowledge of world history if you think the Irish and Gypsies have never had their heritages taken away or been enslaved, or suffered in any way, you should refrain from making such broad sweeping statements about subjects you know little about. Don’t try and claim a monopoly on suffering for any one group of people, I’m sure many Albanians, Jews, Tutsis, and countless other groups of people would disagree with what you have to say.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_British_Isles#Irish_enslavement
http://www.irishhistorylinks.net/History_Links/IrishFamineGenocide.html
http://www.historyjournal.ie/irish-slavery/55-irish-slavery-main-page/112-cromwells-ethnic-cleansing.html
http://history1900s.about.com/od/holocaust/a/gypsies.htm
http://www.errc.org/article/gypsy-hunt-in-switzerland-long-pursuit-of-racial-purity/1203
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Romania
White man thinking he is black , plastic gangster who made a film and tries to rap , retard alert , stick him in Belmarsh see how tough he is !!
What English Frank said to, or about, that security guard, was racist, because he implied the bloke was dumb because he’s African, which implies that all Africans are dumb, which is negative stereotyping.
What, tho, if he’d said he’s smart because he’s African? It might be positive, but it would still be stereotyping, because it implies that he is smart because he is African. Would it be racist?
Some of you might say no. But hold on, what if someone said that a particular person was smart because they’re European? I suspect some people’s racism detecters would start beeping. But why?
If racism is treating people differently based on a perceived race, then saying a person is smart because they’re African, or because they’re European, is both, equally racist.
Some people would dispute that, saying there’s this historial reason why one group can call the other racist, but not the other way round. A case of, ” I can say the ‘R’ word, but you can’t “. Yes, I s’pose this race rubbish is all about power. It’s about how much twoddle someone can come out with to back their racist view, while ofcorse, saying ” I’m not racist, I’m just saying it as it is “, & getting people to buy it. A fact that seems lost on racists, is that they all, regardless of skin colour, say the same thing.
Here’s an everlasting truth, there is only one race, the human race, so cut all this cack. I mean, thru the course of human history, millions of people of all skin colours have been enslaved & killed because of this race stupidity. When are people gonna stop hating other people because they’ve got darker or lighter skin than them?