David James

In a recent interview former England goalkeeper David James said the following:

“I struggle with the racist issue in football because I don’t see it, and  that’s not because I’ve got my head in the sand. In the earlier days, yes, but  the game’s changed. There are some wonderful organisations out there which have  helped football become a much more enjoyable game for everyone.

“Stuff in the crowd being aimed at players – that’s gone, or pretty much  gone. I don’t hear it any more. With regards to the playing side of things, I  don’t look at myself as any different from the guy who gets changed next to me,  and I’m not going to fly anyone’s flag in order to join some ‘gang’, which  doesn’t need to be joined.

“If you want to go on a coaching course to become a manager then give  yourself a chance. If you don’t want to go, and moan about not getting jobs,  well, probably because you haven’t been on the course is the reason why you  haven’t got a job.

“I don’t think it’s a racist issue. I just think it’s a case that the numbers  aren’t there. A bit like the goalie situation. Not many goalies go on the  course, so, therefore, you’re not going to have many goalies make it.”  

I thought David James was supposed to be an intelligent man but he is just another spineless chief who is happy to walk around with his eyes closed and with cotton buds in his ears.

I hope that when his ‘wake up call’ comes it kicks him straight between the eyes.

And to follow on from David’s bulls**t remarks a black player in the under-21s England football squad was racially abused in Serbia during a match on Tuesday night. Player Danny Rose was  subjected to monkey chants during the England v Serbia match and later called for Team Serbia to be banned.

CLICK HERE to read all about it.

Watch the footage below.

Oh dear….

Well at least Danny Rose is speaking out about the incident instead of pretending as if it never happened. But he is all alone here because no black British player will stand up and support him publicly. Until those cowards unite, stand tall together and say “NO MORE” incidents of this nature will continue to happen.

I however don’t see this brave move happening in my lifetime so I no longer feel angry and upset when I read about incidents like this. I am actually past caring. If the majority of black British players refuse to speak out, stand up for themselves and insist on spewing out a bag of crap like David James did to the press, then why should we waste our time getting upset on their behalf and then waste time helping to fight their cause while they hide in the shadows acting like the “massa” has cut out their tongues.

The FA has lodged a complaint but I bet Tuesday night’s antics will eventually be swept under the carpet, Serbia won’t be punished and Rose will be told to move on and to forget about what happened.

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  1. I have to agree with Janice on this one. I’m so past caring what happens to these black footballers. They don’t want to fight the cause, so why should we. The attitude seems to be well, i’m getting paid, so I’m ok, what does it matter?” If thats their attitude, then I really dont have the energy to make noise for a bunch of people that want to hide in the shadows or defend pricks like John Terry in court!! (cough cough, Shoe Shine Cole)!!

  2. Just sad!!!!!!!!! He don’t see the racism… Well said Janice…. Terra…right.. Man when will we wake up!! I’m just tired of all these Blacks that are in denial!!!

  3. People have to start realising that many of these supposedly ‘black’ footballers in England simply do not identify that much, if at all, with black people or African and Afro-Caribbean cultures, while a lot of others try to distance themselves from their own culture. It is quite clear that many of the mixed raced players who are often described in sections of the media and by supporters alike as ‘black’, in reality identify far more strongly with white people and white English culture in general, than they do with black people and black cultures. At the same time many of the players who actually do have two black parents repeatedly show themselves to be complete and utter sellouts.

    Black people should not support these self hating Uncle Toms. DON’T SUPPORT THEM! They go with every type of woman except their own and show zero interest in the concept of a black family unit. They are extremely selfish people who care only about themselves. They couldn’t care less about how issues like racism affect black people in reality. One thing I’ve noticed is that when it doesn’t affect them personally, the likes of Paul Ince, John Barnes, Ashley Cole, Glen Johnson, and others, are quite happy to come to the defence people like John Terry and Suarez claiming ‘he is not a racist’ as they all did, and even blame the actual victim of the racism as Johnson tried to do.

    But when it affects them personally, like Rio Ferdinand’s brother being on the receiving end, or the likes of Ince and Barnes not getting the management positions they seem to think they’re entitled to, then these people suddenly claim racism. Like the other night in the U21 match against Serbia when Ince’s son was caught in the mix, suddenly Ince starts talking about how they should give 10 year (5 tournament) bans for racism, whereas during the John Terry case despite the video evidence he was in the Daily Mail and on Talksport defending Terry saying how it was ridiculous that he should be investigated / prosecuted for racism because Terry is his mate and would never be racist.

    If you really want to understand the mentality of these people you just need to read the article linked below. I read this piece years ago and it’s very insightful. The gist of it is, many of the England players nowadays that the media and football community generally refers to as ‘black’, in reality are mixed race individuals who identify more strongly with white English culture and white people generally than they do with any black cultures and black people, despite what they may look like on the exterior, because many of them were raised almost exclusively in white households.

    When you analyse closely you see that most of those players were raised almost entirely on white English culture. Hence, on a cultural level they basically do not identify with most ordinary black people, so once you understand this fact, the words and actions of people like Ashley Cole and David James starts to make sense. Their skin may look ‘black’, but they are ‘mixed race’ individuals, with the cultural identity of ‘white Englishmen’. The bottom line is they may look the same as ‘black’ folk but mentally they’re more ‘at home’ with white people, as Rachel Yankey stated with one of the quotes in the article. This is where someone like Stan Collymore at least deserves some credit if only for the fact he at least shows some self awareness on racism.

    Meanwhile the likes of Defoe, Ince, Barnes, and others, who really are ‘black’ and have two black parents (which is becoming the minority today amongst those who are referred to as England’s ‘black’ players) are basically Uncle Tom sellouts who have turned their backs on their own communities. I even heared Barnes yesterday on the radio describing himself as English (“we English” he said) despite the fact he’s actually Jamaican and sold out to play for England, he’s clearly forgotten he is not ‘really’ English which sums it all up very well.

    None of these people above can truly represent black people on these kind of issues for the various reasons above so hopefully more black people start to realise this and turn their backs on these selfish footballers who are mostly out for themselves and couldn’t care less.

    MUST READ: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2006/oct/28/colourblind

    KEY QUOTES (The Observer, Sunday 29 October 2006):

    You have only to look at England’s World Cup squad this summer. Six out of seven of the players described as ‘black’ were mixed race, but this was not mentioned on TV or in the written press.

    This year, football’s anti-racism campaign, Kick It Out, launched their week of action around the slogan ‘One Game, One Community’. But mixed race challenges conventional notions about community. The very different stories of the six World Cup players gives an indication of how diverse that term can be – from David James’s and Theo Walcott’s experiences of growing up in predominantly white rural areas, to Rio Ferdinand’s and Ashley Cole’s urban experience of multi-ethnic London estates.


    Cole is a good example. He isn’t offended by being described as black. ‘But,’ he says firmly, ‘I call myself mixed race.’ Cole was raised by his mother in east London. ‘It was a predominantly white home environment. I didn’t really see my black family. At home we ate English food; when we went to parties we didn’t listen to soca or reggae, it would be English music. But in football you’re just seen as black or white; I don’t think people realise the difference.’


    Tottenham striker Jermain Defoe is not mixed race but grew up around mixed-race families in the East End. He says that half-caste is derogatory. He sees his mixed-race team-mates as black, he says. ‘If we were messing about, having a kick around, and someone said let’s play black v whites, I’d expect JJ [Jermaine Jenas] and Aaron [Lennon] to come with us. I don’t think they’d even stop to think about it.’


    But being either black or white in football can be difficult, Stan Collymore’s autobiography, Tackling My Demons, explains. ‘Show me two rooms,’ he wrote, ‘one with black footballers, one with white footballers, and I would pick a room on my own.’ Collymore, who grew up with his white mother in Cannock, felt alienated by the urban black culture he encountered at his first club, Crystal Palace. He says he felt ‘torn apart’ and ‘isolated’. Paul McGrath told of similar stories and such experiences often form a stereotype. One well-known Premiership manager, who has worked with mixed-race players past and present, labelled them difficult, ‘less stable’ and ‘confused’.


    Growing up surrounded by white faces in Welwyn Garden City in Hertfordshire, James was the only non-white child at his junior school. ‘I was called a coon and a black bastard,’ he says. ‘I lived with my white mum so I couldn’t go back to an ethnic home and relate the experience. At school I was asked if I was adopted. I got confused and I’d go home and ask my mum if I was divorced.’


    The example of Collymore and his rooms full of black and white people elicits interesting responses. James says he would probably hang out on his own, while Davies is aghast at the idea of having to choose. ‘Choosing which room to go into?’ he says. ‘That’s like choosing who to save from a burning building, your mum or your dad.’

    Yankey’s view is more complex. ‘When you go in the white room you know you’re different looking, but I’ve grown up with white people so that’s probably where I’d feel most comfortable. When you go in the black room you look similar but you don’t feel as comfortable inside. I’m happiest when I’m surrounded by a mix of people.’

  4. I wholeheartedly agree with your post Observer

    Although I am just a bit confused by some points made by some of the players.

    Do people need to only hang out with their “own” to feel comfortable? I am ok with people who share the same values but not necessarily like the same food , listen to the same music etc.. as me. Do Black Folks are so different of other races, I don’t think so!!!
    Do people need some sort of training to be around us lol!

    Barack Obama did grew up with a White mother and surrounded by non Black people yet manage to know he’ s seen as Black man and feel comfortable around us lol, why can’t they????

  5. @Observer just hit the nail on the head. I actually burst out laughing when he wrote about Paul Ince that was so true the same with John Barnes.

    When I was younger Paul Ince was my hero. I wanted to be him, then I heard that Paul Gascoigne said he looked like a pint of guiness when he had a bandage around his head in the World Cup Qualifer against Italy and Ince thought it was funny, I lost a little bit of respect for him, then I heard other comments from him and lost all respect for the bounty.

    @Nubiahbella When you meet people like yourself it’s comfortable, it’s good to know you can be yourself, you relax more, it’s no different to going to other country automatically you gravite around people who speak the same language as you, and if they are from the same country as you it’s even better, it’s the same with being around black people, you don’t have to explain every little thing.

    I grew up with a white family in a white neighbourhood, and am comfortable around black and white, but prefer being around black people, because white people just don’t understand.

    Stan Collymore and David James especially have always had issues with race, they are the reason why black dads have to be around, they grew up with white mums who told them you’re just like everyone else and then when they went to school they realised different and got a serious complex, as for Ashley Cole I don’t even wanna talk about that prick.

  6. @Chico Rei, when you are aboard it’s a totally different dynamic ( I am Black French and the number people “White ones” I have met aboard yet wouldn’t have given a dime about me in France but were happy to meet someone more or less like them lol ) .My point was if you grew up in the same country especially a city, culturally you tend to have a lot in common. Not everything is about being Black, White or Asian etc….

  7. Nubiahbella :
    @Chico Rei, when you are aboard it’s a totally different dynamic ( I am Black French and the number people “White ones” I have met aboard yet wouldn’t have given a dime about me in France but were happy to meet someone more or less like them lol ) .My point was if you grew up in the same country especially a city, culturally you tend to have a lot in common. Not everything is about being Black, White or Asian etc….

    @Nubiahbella I like people like you, who think it’s not about race anymore, but the simple fact is race is still very much a big issue.

    My point is people gravite to people who are like themselves and that includes race, it’s only black people who are always playing beg friend with the white race, it’s because we don;t stick together that we get f***ed over, would you even ask this question to an Asian (Chinese or Indian)? How many of them do you think would say, ah you know I’ll go to the room on my own?

  8. The bad news is that they look blacker than my light skinned African niece whose parents are both black African.

    Even if the don’t want anything to do with the black community, it’s important for them to know that the rest of the world interacts with them as black. They need to understand this for the well being of their mental state, not for the rest of us black folks.

    As for James not seeing racism in football, Smh, go and ask ronaldo what happened to him after that wink that saw England out in the quarter finals. He was only good as long as he scored for Manchester and dived for them and made money for them, other than that, doing it for his OWN country saw the end of his career in the premiership. They said that he was being overpaid for nothing, he could leave and they didn’t need him, he was pompous for nothing etc etc and that was racism and he looks more like them than you do James. You and the rest of your cronies are mere commodities and you will never fit in as well as you would like to or think you do.

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