This is interesting….

Your thoughts please……..

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  1. this was interesting..they got time to be watchin people in the street. But it is only some black guys that act like that. Sometimes I do feel a way when walkin past certain mans, but then again some can be very respectful while others act like they were brought up with no manners. Then when you try to tell them they’re being disrespectful they tell you you think your too nice. So u cant win…
    But it is a problem if girls are getting shot, and are scared to walk past black guys.

  2. Hmmm…interesting premise, but I don’t believe it was executed properly. Although Black women are unfairly labeled as “jump-offs” rather than loving wives/ girlfriends; this documentary just appeared too “anti-black man” to me. As a Black person, it’s understandable that we notice the actions of other Black people more. There are lots of “non-Black interactions” we fail to pick up on because we’re Black and vice versa. White men DO make lewd comments towards White women- ever visited a college(UNI) town? I’ve had White men harass me on the street and accuse Black women of being racist because we generally date within our race. An older Black man actually helped me out of that situation. It’s important for all women to be careful, but we shouldn’t fear men, especially men of our own race.

  3. There is a lot of truth behind this documentary. Not to say that all black men conduct themselves this way, but an overwhelming majority of young black men do. You see it in the streets, the subways, the bus stops, the malls. It’s degrading, embarrassing, and downright shameful. It’s a disgrace that our ancestors were enslaved, hung from trees, and kept down for centuries, and this is what we’ve become?! We’ve got to do better, we can’t keep blaming “the man” for all of our problems.

  4. i know this film isnt addressing me….
    i know i dont conduct myself in this manner….
    but i cant pretend that there are not men especiallly black men out there that are making women feel like this….
    so i would say ………
    nit picking about whether it was executed rightly or wrongly is not really the point..
    i believe they do…. and even if it not fair to group all men together..
    its painful to see that there is THIS FEELING AMONGST BLACK WOMEN IN GENERAL..

  5. I like the fact that it has been documented as a talking point but I can hear those ‘borthers’ shouting at the screen…”who would want them anyway, they’re ugly anyway!”* now that the rejection has been heard. Sods law.

    *Typical retort that every black woman on the Western planet has had shouted after them when they have declined to be manhandled/hailed out on the street minding their own biz.

  6. @tyiscloser
    The problem isn’t that these women have a point, but that they’re OVER-STATING the point as a Black male problem (i.e. Black men are aggressive, disrespectful, sex-crazed individuals). I ‘ve had Black men makes lewd remarks towards me, but I refuse to fear Black men; especially after having wonderful relationships with Black men my entire life. The fact that YOU fail to see yourself and your own behavior in the film, won’t stop a stranger from lumping you (and Obama) in with all those “over-sexed mandingos”. The same way it won’t stop a store clerk from following you in a store, or women (Black women too-smh) from crossing the street when you approach after being exposed (for years) to negative media imagery about Black men. The documentary lacked balance (admittedly, I’ve only seen an excerpt); where were the positive male voices like yours? Surely, they too must object to this behavior. We complain about the media stereotyping Blacks, and yet we stereotype ourselves daily. If this documentary cast a negative light on Black women (e.g. Black women dress slutty; ask for negative attention), sistas would be up in arms,even if there were some half-truths spoken. Sistas want to be seen as individuals (not video hoes, hood rats, and Jerry Springer rejects), but won’t allow the same courtesy to Black men. I’m a woman, and yet I realize the importance of protecting, when justified, our men. In the USA (my home), I believe this film will only stir up more “Black man vs. Black woman” beef rather than honest discussion and solutions. Besides, the problem of sexual aggression is a worldwide phenomenon; it isn’t race, gender, or class-specific.

  7. the world already has a view of us….
    hiding our dirty linen isnt gonna help…
    this documentary doesnt round up all the edges.. but it highlights one aspect… and as a man… i couldnt give a damn what the negative implications on the black man are gonna be.. because it exists….
    no point hiding it..
    no point being academic about it
    no point exchanging stereotypes..

  8. P says – I’m a woman, and yet I realize the importance of protecting, when justified, our men. In the USA (my home), I believe this film will only stir up more “Black man vs. Black woman” beef rather than honest discussion and solutions. Besides, the problem of sexual aggression is a worldwide phenomenon; it isn’t race, gender, or class-specific.

    @ P, I hear you loud and clear, butttttt If this topic stirs up black man vs black women beef then so be it. It’s a controversial topic so feelings will be stirred, especially for decent black men. If the debate stirs a few men into NOT behaving like a neanderthal then it needs to be discussed whatever the solution/outcome.

    Most black men who do not behave this way will be offended because it’s a direct slur on their character. The men who do behave this way need to know it’s unacceptable. On the flip side I doubt it would have much effect on them because there are some women who love this type of attention and are receptive to it.

    I suppose for those of us who abhor it, we just have to suck it up. In my later years I have tackled many guys face to face on the street for the hollering out/dsirespectful comments. It’s something I try not to do but it has had a positive effect in some cases and resulted in them apologising. Sometimes it’s resulted in an argument, not a route I like to go down, but thats how strongly I feel about this subject.

    Why can’t I go about my business without being hollered at, and in my experiences living in London, it has always been black men. To all the decent black men who DON’T behave in this manner, talk to the ones who DO and explain that…. would they like their daughters, sisters, mothers, nieces etc to be hollered at/disrespected in this way.

    The type of black men I date, don’t behave this way so it would never affect my relationships. A lot of my friends don’t see this as a problem, they either laugh it off or ignore it , something which i find hard to do.

    Sexual aggression is a worldwide phenomenon as you say, but the issue being discussed is from a black womans point of view predominately about black men and like it or lump it is a problem. When i go on holiday to Jamaica/Nigeria for eg it’s a big problem. When I travel in Europe it’s not. If i were white I may have a different experience, but as a black woman these are my experiences. The topic needs to be aired and it’s well overdue.

    These are black women who are giving their experiences faced by MAINLY black men, this is not overstating the problem as mainly a black issue, it is what it is. Of course these women have been in loving realtionships with black men, just like you have. If after these experiences someone says,
    ” THAT’S IT, I’m not dating black men,” then there has to be other deep underlying issues or they are not the full ticket.

    No matter how much we don’t like the subject matter directed at our black men, if that’s your experience it should not be belittled.

  9. ty…you’re the best!

    *in my most valliest valley white girl voice*

    let em know!


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